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Tashik



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PostPosted: Wed, 20-May-2009 23:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

gymnastfille wrote:
CoCoNuTsiopatHic wrote:
gymnastfille wrote:
I have a question... Embarassed
If I do 2 jetes and jump through the rope in both of the leaps, I wrote
*Passing through the rope symbol (*flight symbol and then shoule i use *rotation symbol or *change of plan symbol) ??

Please answer someone Smile


You add the symbols for 'flight', 'rotation', and 'series'--and 'flight' and 'rotation' each count twice.


okey, Thank you! Very Happy Kiss Cheek


If I do the same but in 2 simple split leaps, can I count the flight 2 times also or only once?
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PostPosted: Thu, 21-May-2009 2:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

ignore, see below
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PostPosted: Thu, 21-May-2009 2:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tashik wrote:
gymnastfille wrote:
CoCoNuTsiopatHic wrote:
gymnastfille wrote:
I have a question... Embarassed
If I do 2 jetes and jump through the rope in both of the leaps, I wrote
*Passing through the rope symbol (*flight symbol and then shoule i use *rotation symbol or *change of plan symbol) ??

Please answer someone Smile


You add the symbols for 'flight', 'rotation', and 'series'--and 'flight' and 'rotation' each count twice.


okey, Thank you! Very Happy Kiss Cheek


If I do the same but in 2 simple split leaps, can I count the flight 2 times also or only once?


I think the CoP Errata (not the Newsletter) said that it was only jetes where 'flight' and 'rotation' could count up to three times each for each leap in the series, but you can count 'series' for only two successive leaps/jumps.
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PostPosted: Fri, 22-May-2009 9:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

If i jump through the rope backwards with double rope, shall I also use the symbol "change of plan/direction"?? or only through the jump as base, and then (the flight sybmol and the double rope symbol)? Embarassed
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Attitude



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PostPosted: Fri, 22-May-2009 20:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can write the change of plane symbol, so you will get 0,3
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PostPosted: Fri, 30-Oct-2009 3:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is just normal rotations, not figure eights, a mastery base? I can't see it in the COP, but I'm sure I've seen people do it.. I feel like I'm going crazy Laughing
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Attitude



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PostPosted: Sun, 1-Nov-2009 19:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes

see Newsletter No 1

http://www.sportcentric.com/vsite/vnavsite/page/directory/0,10853,5187-191697-208920-nav-list,00.html
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PostPosted: Tue, 5-Jan-2010 0:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a question Embarassed
how do you write in D1 and D2 a series of two split leaps passing into the rope turning forward?
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PostPosted: Tue, 9-Feb-2010 2:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SAEUPCbz0I

Can someone analize this routine of Dmitrieva??...Because I only saw pivots Confused
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PostPosted: Tue, 9-Feb-2010 8:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeUTRoN_Hr wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SAEUPCbz0I

Can someone analize this routine of Dmitrieva??...Because I only saw pivots Confused


i beleive she's doing:

jump: 0:04, 0:17, 1:09, 1:20
pivot: 0:09: 0:23, 0:44, 0:52: 1:02
balance: 1:17

am i missing a flexibility/wave ?
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PostPosted: Tue, 9-Feb-2010 23:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

Janita wrote:
NeUTRoN_Hr wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SAEUPCbz0I

Can someone analize this routine of Dmitrieva??...Because I only saw pivots Confused


i beleive she's doing:

jump: 0:04, 0:17, 1:09, 1:20
pivot: 0:09: 0:23, 0:44, 0:52: 1:02
balance: 1:17

am i missing a flexibility/wave ?


the penché with rotation at 00:22 is a flexibility, not a pivot, but anyway she could make 2 difficulties more. Maybe her D1 value is already 10, I'm too tired to calculate it
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PostPosted: Wed, 10-Feb-2010 3:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dmitreva Rope

1. Split jump with arch: 0.7
2. 720 attitude to 720 ring pivot: 1.5 (0.6 + 0.8 + 0.1)
3. Turning stag with arch leap: 0.8
4. 1080 penchee flex: 1.0
5. 720 attitude to 360 penchee pivot: 1.3 (0.6 + 0.6 + 0.1)
6. 720 horizontal pivot to 360 penchee flex: 1.3 (0.6 + 0.6 + 0.1)
7. 360 ring to 360 back split pivot: 0.9 (0.4 + 0.4 + 0.1)
8. Stag jump with arch: 0.5
9. Back scale with split balance: 0.7
10. Turning stag with ring leap: 0.7

Total: 9.4 (although some pivots may have been written with more rotations).

4 leaps, 4 pivots, 1 balance, 1 flex.
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PostPosted: Wed, 10-Feb-2010 23:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's curious how in the pivot "horizontal leg to penché", its value increases +0.3 for extra rotation during the pivot and +0.2 during the flex, so it's supposed to be more difficult to make a large pivot with horizontal leg and a single turn in penché that one turn with horizontal leg and a lot of penché rotations.
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PostPosted: Thu, 11-Feb-2010 1:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eulucil wrote:
It's curious how in the pivot "horizontal leg to penché", its value increases +0.3 for extra rotation during the pivot and +0.2 during the flex, so it's supposed to be more difficult to make a large pivot with horizontal leg and a single turn in penché that one turn with horizontal leg and a lot of penché rotations.


It's actually 0.6 per additional rotation in the penchee pivot, and 0.2 in the flex.
0.3 is each additional rotation in horizontal.
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PostPosted: Fri, 12-Feb-2010 0:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tahnee wrote:
Eulucil wrote:
It's curious how in the pivot "horizontal leg to penché", its value increases +0.3 for extra rotation during the pivot and +0.2 during the flex, so it's supposed to be more difficult to make a large pivot with horizontal leg and a single turn in penché that one turn with horizontal leg and a lot of penché rotations.


It's actually 0.6 per additional rotation in the penchee pivot, and 0.2 in the flex.
0.3 is each additional rotation in horizontal.


It's specified next to the pivot figure, at right, that each aditional rotation in flex is 0.3 and in pivot the base value (0.3).
Adding +0.2 for each flex is fine for me, because that way gymnasts that are able to perform it in relevé get more credit
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